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Shogun Final Episode Discussion Thread :marseykamikaze: :marseyjapanese: :marseysamurai:

!kino, the last episode is out!

Will BWC-sama end up with Fuji sama?

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rdrama short-form video round-up

Please share some of the strange or interesting content you've found on tiktok/yt shorts/insta reels

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EFFORTPOST @Grue made the mistake of asking me why Gilmore Girls: A Year in the Life sucked so now you all have to suffer, too. [Spoilers]

deep breath

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Spoilers for a 20 year old TV series & TW for special interest 'tism...

The creator/showrunner/lead writer of Gilmore Girls was Amy Sherman-Palladino (ASP), and she's the main person responsible for the unique cozy vibe and fast-paced, reference-heavy dialogue of the original series. She's also something of a crazy control freak who had a very particular predefined arc in mind for the show, one that would highlight the parallels between Rory and her mother and grandmother, Emily (the 3rd Gilmore Girl). For years fans heard about the mysterious "final 4 words" that she already knew would end the series. She's like the opposite of the GoT showrunners who had no idea how the frick they were going to wrap up the ending.

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ASP may be a stubborn b-word but she's a good writer with strong hat game

Except... ASP was forced out after the penultimate sixth season of the original run in a contract dispute with the network, the details of which have always been hazy. Toward the end of the sixth season, ASP added a bunch of zany plots (e.g. Lorelai throwing herself at Rory's deadbeat dad, Christopher) that almost seemed like a vindictive attempt to sabotage the show on her way out the door. The new show runners dumped into the thick of it for the seventh season did their best to tie up all the bizarre loose ends, and in doing so they moved away from the predestined fatalism of ASP's original arc - the theme of which could be loosely summed up as "no matter how you try to run away from it, you always grow up to be your mother." :marseyitneverbegan:

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Spoiled douchbag boyfriend, meet spoiled douchebag dad

For example, ASP always had in mind that Rory's rich, spoiled boyfriend, Logan, would be "her Christopher," a dissolute playboy who toys with her heart, knocks her up, and ultimately abandons her - but during the final season without ASP, the writers moved away from that storyline: Logan becomes estranged from his wealthy family, he has to stand on his own two feet, he exhibits personal growth. By the end of the series, he's ready to commit; he doesn't abandon Rory, he wants to marry her, but she decides she's not ready to settle down so young. The original series ends with Rory Gilmore, a promising young journ*list heading off to Iowa to cover the long-shot presidential campaign of a promising young Senator named Barack Obama.

The seventh season is divisive among fans for a few reasons (the hasty resolution of many of ASP's S6 landmine plots, the dialogue feels kind of off, some new characters are sloppily introduced late in the game) but I think most people enjoyed seeing Logan grow up a bit and the way his relationship with Rory matured. Most people liked the ending, and thought it was fitting to have Rory choose herself and her career over a man. There's a little bit of added millennial nostalgia/wish-fulfillment and serendipity to see Rory climbing onto the Obama campaign bus when we know he's going to win that race. As viewers, we figure Rory is off to a great start with a bright future ahead of her covering a landmark campaign up close.

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Go get 'em, Ace!

Then, eight years later, Netflix gave ASP an assload of money to make A Year in the Life and she used it to take a giant shit all over Season Seven. She basically returned to Stars Hollow with the intent to settle old scores and give Gilmore Girls the ending that she knew it had to have: even if it didn't make a darn lick of sense almost a decade later. She has claimed that she has never watched S7, that she doesn't even really consider it canon. She said she had an assistant watch it and take notes for her. In AYITL, she kept one baby born in S7, and threw out almost everything else, determined to tell her version of what season 7 should have been.

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Netflix: Buying your childhood to wear as a four-piece skinsuit

Lorelai and Luke (her main love interest/will-they-won't-they) act like newlyweds wrestling with the decision about whether to have kids, even though they've been married for the better part of a decade and Lorelai is pushing 50. Rory is broke, directionless and struggling like a new college grad, not like a woman in her 30s with access to a multimillion dollar trust fund. Logan is instantly back to being a useless frickboi: engaged to a beautiful woman we never see, but carrying on an affair with Rory.

The only good storyline in AYITL centers on Emily coming to terms with the loss of her husband, Richard (Rory's grandfather) and that story was forced on ASP by the real-life death of the actor Edward Herrmann. She had to actually write a new, age-appropriate story for Emily instead of dusting off whatever she wanted to do for S7, and it's so much better for it.

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Poor Ed's brain cancer is the real MVP of AYITL

There's a bunch of other minor shit that sucks in AYITL: fat-shaming that feels very early-2000s and out of step with modern culture, lazily retconning certain characters to be gay for added diversity, an unfunny retread of the "Ann? Her?" gag from Arrested Development. But the main reason A Year In The Life is terrible is that ASP was too stubborn to incorporate any of the stories that other writers had given to her characters, so instead of a thoughtful extrapolation of how these characters might have lived and grown or changed over almost ten years, she did S7: ASP's Version. It's 2016, not 2007, but no one has changed at all or learned anything in the meantime.

A Year in the Life ends with the famous "final four words" that ASP had always preordained, even if they no longer make any goddarn sense from a narrative perspective:

"Mom?"

"Yeah?"

"I'm pregnant."

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Barely 32 years old and having a bastard with this dude! :marseycry:


Thank you for coming to my TED talk, as a reward for your patience, enjoy this spot-on Mad TV parody:

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Civil War (2024)
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is kung fu panda 4 woke?

they made the dragon warrior a woman

and turned po's dads into a gay couple

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Top Foids of Starshit #3: Lt. Carolyn Palamas from 'Who Mourns for Adonias' played by Leslie Parrish

In this episode, the Enterprise finds the God Apollo (or at least an alien who claims to be him) living on a random planet in the middle of nowhere. Kind of like finding a member of Pink Floyd living random social housing in North London...

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Anyway he spies out Lt. Palamas (xenobiology apparently) and flexes on Kirk and the others. Scotty takes exception to this as he has taken a shine to Lt. Palamas to the level of harassment. This isn't just me putting a 21st century spin on things- in the episode 'Wolf in the Fold' McCoy- Scotty's drinking buddy mind you- has some interesting things to say about Scotty...

Apollo flexes for the ladies:

Apollo takes Palamas off and makes sure she can't wear a bra. This totally wins her over and she returns to tell the boys that they should all accept beta status but Kirk is no beta.

Here Kirk shows us how to deal with foids. One of Shatner's finer speeches IMO:

Palamas does the frick what she's told to do and then the other alpha in the room, Spock, drives the car straight across the lawn and through Apollo's garage:

It's worth mentioning that the actor who plays Apollo is Michael Forrest. He's 95 and still working as a voice actor. He apparently went to the same gym in LA as Ricardo Montalban.

Leslie Parish was supposedly 33 when she played Palamas in 1967 but her first gig was as a 'Miss Color TV' in 1951 aged 19...

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This is not her but the picture shows what Miss Color TV did- show people how to adjust the color on their TV. She was chosen for her 'natural skin tones'. Mayos gonna mayo.

...which would make her 35 when she was in Star Trek. She is described on IMDB as an 'environmentalist and political activist'. Oh yeah, she was one of those ones. Never-the-less she was very attractive and was in a whole bunch of other stuff including Mission Impossible (shot across the road from Star Trek) the original Manchurian Candidate and also she was Mr Freeze's sidekick in Batman when Freeze was played by Eli Walach ('the ugly' from The Good, The Bad and the Ugly):

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This one's from Mannix but she seems to be wearing the exact same dress as she wore in Star Trek:

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An inexplicable production still where a stunt performer appears to be soiling himself:

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She is, as of this post, still around today.

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Monthly "What are you watching?" thread

Seems like @KinoBushido has died and we haven't had one of these in a while

As always NO ANIME


I don't have anything to talk about other than finishing Masters of the Air. Was pretty kino.

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I've been binging Cow Hoof Trimming Youtubers lately :marseymoonshine: :marseycow: :marseytexan:
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Is good film, recommend you watch it. Builds tension throughout really well and has a based ending that you kind of spend the whole movie assuming won't happen because it would be too based.

What kind of a loser watches a 90 minute movie and demands word building? “Oh, where is the glossary and complete encyclopaedia of this speculative conflict????!? Why don't the state lines (barely if at all depicted in the actual canon film) make any sense to me?!?!????? WHY ARENT THE BRIDGES BLWON UP????? I WANTED TO SEE THE CHARACTER TRYING TO CROSS A BODY OF WATER FOR HOURS!?!?? :marseyautismchonker: :marseysmugautist: :marseysmugautist: :marseysmugautist:

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1977: Is REAL ALE Worth CROW-ing About? | That's Life! | Animal Magic | BBC Archive

:#marseyme:

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Just watched The Iron Claw

I will admit I'm a retired wrestlingcel and going in I knew the story of the Von Erichs. Some aspects don't happen chronologically, nor accurately. Heck they didn't even put Chris (the youngest brother) in it at all because it would have made the movie like 4 hours long.

Fact is tho, Zac Efron should get a look for best actor Oscar, and the film itself should as well. Incredibly well acted and cast, the pacing is great and there isn't any filler. By the last scene of the movie I was literally balling my eyes out and I'm a 40yo guy. Highly recommend this to all dramatards.

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The Sympathizer is kino

'nam show :marseyvietnam: :marseyflamethrower: by oldboy guy :marseysmughipskorean:

FIRST EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

I'm 1/16 negro :dasrite:

why do these fricking Ivy League kids insist that they're black? :asianchud:


I'm gonna kill myself :marseyindignantgook:

do it r-slur :marseydoit:


:marseynotesglow: watches woman pooping


:marseyrussiaglow: gets what he deserves


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Kinoplex - Wikipedia

Owned and operated by renowned "kinosseur" Robert, the kinoplex eventually went out of buisness due to Roberts financial blunders and debt.

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Shogun's a pretty cool series :marseysamurai:

Cut these neighbors down. :marseygeisha:

bows politely :marseyweeb:

:marseydead: :marseydeathpose:

Skill issue. :marseykamikaze:

:marsey#popcorn:

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Liam Neeson is in it too. Im kinda hopeful about this tbh assuming they dont make it too slapstick

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Which John Wick movie is your favourite?

I rewatched the tetralogy over the week. Seen 1 through 3 couple times but it was my first time watching chapter four, which in all honesty I feel was the weakest movie of the series. I know that with each movie there's more and more escalation and with it comes suspense of disbelief, but for me it crossed the line with the blind assassin. I just couldn't take it seriously after that. Though I will admit, as a character he's pretty cool. Another thing I disliked was that so many people were now wearing bulletproof armour that it lowered the stakes and needlessly dragged out the shootouts. I liked it more when it was a special thing reserved for the select few. Oh and also the seeker character. He was completely pointless, I'm not sure why they put him in.

Anyways, my favourite has to be either 2 or 3. 2 is just very good all around with cool action and believable story, but 3 had absolutely amazing action in my opinion (the opening fights with knives, the Casablanca fight with dogs and of course the siege on Continental were all :marseychefkiss:) but the plot is kind of insignificant as the movie ends in about the same state as it starts in, making everything feel a bit pointless.

I also know that there's a short series called the Continental, which I wasn't considering watching, but I just found out that Mel Gibson is in it and since it has good rating I might give it a go too.

So which one's your favourite?

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Civil War: a review

Kino bros… are we back???

The political shit is kept to a minimum, it's all about how war is le bad :taymindblown: and journ*list are evil parasites but the images are pretty crazy even if they're not super accurate to actual warfare is like (source: been playing COD since World at War)

Seriously tho it's very well made and says something that isn't “Cheeto man is the antichrist” which feels rare these days.

What will you do during the civil war?

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