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  • whyareyou : Foid nonsense, disregard
  • Aisha : Somebody find a real doctor. God is turning me into an earthworm and I need it to stop.
  • Genius : He's real i asked him
  • Spiderman : Real journ*lism
  • Urboros : It's about Ethics in Gaming Journ*lism
  • Downie : Aisha, I will still love you even though your a worm
  • DeepKeepShill : DID SOMEONE SAY WORM???? GREKBROS WE'RE SO BACK! :worm:
  • 0 : Metadrama bs

Summary:

Basically every doctor is given something called an NPI number by the federal government. Every state also gives out licenses to work there.

Garry said he went to Harvard, worked in New Mexico as a hematologist/oncologist and also said he had a 5 letter last name. I looked up all hematologists/oncologists who have ever been licensed in NM. (The NPI database shows this, you can search by taxonomy) None with a 5 letter last name went to Harvard. (He was challenging people to doxx him)

Like a month ago I asked him about this. First he said he didn’t have to be licensed in NM as he wasn’t practicing as a doctor, just overseeing the clinic. Then he said he changed his last name so it wasn’t actually 5 letters in the NPI system. Today he claims he was only licensed in CA. Btw maiden names are listed in the NPI database, pretty sure.

This is on top of him lying about donating marrow post cancer (not allowed) & some other crazy things like $100 tires for his lambo, pics of which he won’t post. Think there’s more car drama but wasn’t here for it and idc.

He also said he was terminal with Burkitt’s lymphoma and had 5-7 months but now says he’s in treatment and will go back to work soon (??).

When I called him out earlier he said to look up his former boss at some lab who had an NPI starting with the “T15”. NO NPI STARTS WITH T. They literally ALL start with 1.

I always assumed he worked in a lab but wasn’t a doctor since he has tons of pathology posts (diagnosing disease) and not much about treatment. Oncologists DO NOT DIAGNOSE.

Also I have NEVER EVER heard of someone who is both an ER physician and an oncologist (two separate taxonomies). There are oncologists for ICU/intermediate ICU etc who work at hospitals but they are NOT ER doctors.

He also frequently misspells HIPAA as HIPPA which is a privacy law that you literally see every fricking day even if you’re a secretary in healthcare.

Anyways it just never added up so I made the post, and he made a post saying I was jelly of not being the only cancer survivor (fair). Then he sent me a message asking for a truce.

I asked for proof such as his NPI number. He said no. I said I can’t help u unless I can verify someone with your demographics exists (like 7 letters of last name & oncologist in CA, so not even that specific)

Then I said I would take it down (to get him to confess). He then said would make a post where he admits he “fabricated” some stuff but still say he is a doctor. I gave him 48 hours. He’s doubling down. So now I’m posting again.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1688499463938242.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/16884994644467595.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1688499465084382.webp

Original post I deleted:

Garry Chess: Fake Doctor? No hematologist/oncologist with a 5 letter last name has ever been license in NM who went to Harvard

It’s easy to search for yourself.

I asked him about it but it still doesn’t sit right with me, especially after people saying he lies about his cars etc. Garry says his NPI (national provider identifier, every doctor, dentist, PA, etc has one) is under his “old” (?) last name and he’s not licensed as he’s not practicing. The NPPES database includes providers with expired licenses, just FYI, so it’s a very convenient excuse he has changed his last name at some point.

He’s now saying he was licensed in CA and references someone whose NPI allegedly starts with T15. NPIs are 10 digits and start with 1. LITERALLY ALL OF THEM. They do not start with letters.

I think he’s actually a clinical director or similar LARPing as a doctor.

I hesitated to say anything just in case the cancer stuff was real but even that seems to be a changing story….

Idk about the car drama. Someone else can chime in.

Edit:

Lol

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16883410803224614.webp

Edit 2:

Claims to have had Burkitt’s lymphoma 2x but donated marrow after first time.

Click here to see how strict the donation requirements are

That was first thing that got me really sus

Edit 3:

Okay so idk how many of us have gone through chemo but I did at 27 & otherwise healthy and I would almost fricking collapse in Target and have to sit on the bench in the pharmacy or lean on the cart sometimes with sweat pouring down my face so this is laughable. Sometimes I couldn’t even get my mail. My mom had to do my laundry bc I couldn’t physically carry it to the laundry room in my complex. Idk, maybe he’s a super human who could go hiking during a very intense chemo regimen (worse than the one I went through). Don’t doubt there are people who can but…. I’m sure most people’s bullshit detectors are off the charts rn.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16883433014071474.webp

Edit 4:

Just remembered…99% sure maiden names come up in parentheses when you search if someone updated their NPI info.

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  • Elohim-Erika-UH : HEY WAIT A MINUTE THIS IS DOXING CARP YOU UNBELIEVABLE CUTE TWINK
  • 2DBussy : ^ :marseytrain2: seethe
  • Goomble : All rules can and likely will be ignored at the discretion of the janitorial staff.

MINOR UPDATE: Srdines smugpost over the whole thing; users with millions of Reddit karma tut tut about terminally online jannies

Shit is popping off and n8 is going out with a bang. Here is his thread wherein he admits to doing what he could to break as many of @Merari’s mops as possible before leaving:

https://old.reddit.com/r/N8theGr8/comments/x0piec/this_is_un8thegr8_im_back_to_explain_why_i/?sort=controversial

Which is apparently what this blossoming mop war is about.

This is coming to a head a few days after the Kiwis doxxed Merari (his name is Joost for God’s sake) which you can read about here:

https://rdrama.net/post/95174/marseykiwi2pat-update-maybe-pictures-kiwicel-claims

Snappy in that thread should have an archive of the Farms post since KF is still down until later today. It’s a ride.

This is all presumably coming to a head because of Merari’s well-documented, passionate, months-long defense of child rapist Aimee Challenor.

Slack leaks coming soon, will flair thread when updated. Wanna get this posted rn so the Reddit post can be archived.

CHRONOLOGICAL OVERVIEW TO DATE

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TW: MELODRAMA :violin:

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SECOND UPDATE

Killhacks, whose tongue is permanently lodged up Merari’s butt, has noticed this thread almost immediately. Make an account and talk to us babe :marseyblowkiss: SEE UPDATE #3

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Hey Femilip - it’s not n8. You can see cuz there’s a reply to his ping in one of the screens and it doesn’t have that tasteful green (yellow? am colorblind :marseygigaretard:) highlight. Also, timestamps. Both are relatively easily falsified, yeah, but I really don’t have time for that and I’m offended at the suggestion that I do.

Hi conalfisher! I still wish you’d join us for real :(

THIRD UPDATE

The groomercord user/Reddit mod there, “killhacks” is actually @tardkiller on this very website!

Here is a screenshot of his profile as I am expecting him to nuke its content imminently. Unfortunately, you can’t delete the account itself. rDrama is proudly GDPR noncompliant!

:marseypatriot:

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FOURTH UPDATE

Timestamps scrubbed from this other leaker by request.

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I have a short presentation to give in a few, I’ll be back with more in a bit x

FIFTH UPDATE

A small one but significant? N8 is leading the charge away from Reddit and into the great outdoors lol

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UPDATE 5.5 /u/CONALFISHER HAS ASSIMILATED INTO @conalfisher

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SIXTH UPDATE

Million-karma Reddit poweruser /u/esoterix_luke has just groomercord dropped the tail end of a fight with merari via their Slack dms! Can Merari survive this fallout? Can Reddit survive losing TWO of its 20-hour-a-day volunteers in a month? (yes, jannies are infinitely replaceable)

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rDrama user has tea on Luke:

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SEVENTH UPDATE

Powerjannies are revealing their chad rDrama accounts to clown on Merari :marseywholesome:

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And /u/esoterix_luke comes in hot with another Slack leak!

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EIGHTH UPDATE - /r/CenturyClub leaks!

N8 has crossposted his assault on Merari to /r/centuryclub which is apparently a sub only for people with >100k karma or something?

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disturbing allegations

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Jannie to the jannies yalls the yallers and tells them to move to an even more exclusive subreddit lol

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continued discussion of the yalling

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assorted poweruser pearlclutching

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Here we have a volunteer online janitor comparing Reddit moderation to work with NGOs and assorted charities. This isn't quite on the level of the guy who once essayed at me about how it's the same as working in a soup kitchen or homeless shelter, but it's close.

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n8, as /u/karmanacht, explains why he left and why he's back (to piss Merari off 💜)

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Some guy comes out very pro-n8 and gives a timeline of events that I'm not reading because I don't care that much. It looks good, though. You should read it.

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And finally, for now, some randos also joining #TeamN8. Is it over for Joost?

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EIGHT AND A HALFETHTHTH MINI UPDATE

Merari seems to have lost control of Groomercord :marseyexcited:

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Jannies keep dunking on him with this too -

https://twitter.com/reddit_lies/status/1530745620859961346?t=tEjGJ60KSQhTlYdM1H2OIw&s=19

NINTH UPDATE - it has moved to /r/CenturyClubDrama

For a summary of this update, please just look at this helpful summary from the #3 moderator on Reddit, /u/RamsesThePigeon:

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The explanation:

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Full imgur album of the /r/CenturyClubDrama thread for anyone who wants to stink of corn chips for a few weeks:

https://i.imgur.com/a/OTiMG6K

To clarify, /u/RamsesThePigeon really is the #3 biggest powermod now that N8 is gone. Source:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841361299029307.webp

He jannies 187 million Redditors. FOR FREE :marseyxd:

Some random fricking Merari essay about the whole thing that I’m not reading. Something about queerphobia. Racism. Sexism. You know the drill by now:

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REMINDER THAT MERARI01 SPENT MONTHS DEFENDING CHILD RAPIST AIMEE CHALLENOR AND STILL FEELS THAT REDDIT SHOULD HAVE KEPT HER

Some rando powerjannie telling Merari that his fanaticism for volunteering for a multibillion dollar global corporation is unhealthy and concerning just now:

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TENTH UPDATE

just for you bb :marseyblush:

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/u/I_PUNCH_INFANTS if you join rDrama and post itt I’ll hook you up with an exclusive bluecheck like I did for Conal and Phoenix. That’s a 100k dramacoin value. FOR FREE.

TENTH POINT FIVETH UPDATE

Powerjannie /u/I_PUNCH_INFANTS now has an rDrama presence as @I_PUNCH_INFANTS 🤗

ELEVENTH UPDATE

I think it’s winding down now. For the day at least. Merari is Dutch so it’s quite late there and this is to be expected. Here are some leaks from his personal Slack:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841361303042047.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1684136131055669.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1684136131547072.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1684136132335841.webp

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EFFORTPOST Justice4Darrell subreddit mentioned in Darrell Brooks trial

https://old.reddit.com/r/Justice4Darrell/comments/ycwa43/i_am_a_member_of_the_jury_on_this_case_here_are/?sort=controversial

As part of the record...

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1684135695272627.webp

News Articles

https://twitter.com/cathyrusson/status/1585071740769955840 - tweet from Law & Crime Network producer

https://fox11online.com/news/crime/anonymous-reddit-post-claims-to-be-juror-in-waukesha-christmas-parade-trial

https://abc7chicago.com/waukesha-parade-attack-darrell-brooks-trial-closing-arguments-wi/12374834/

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-darrell-brooks-judge-orders-investigation-into-reddit-group-justice4darrell-claiming-to-be-working-with-a-juror-to-nullify-trial

https://www.gmtoday.com/the_freeman/news/live-updates-day-17-of-darrell-brooks-jr-s-waukesha-christmas-parade-trial/article_9f01e3de-5468-11ed-a003-57996fc5ecc0.html

https://heavy.com/news/darrell-brooks-juror-reddit-jury/

https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/waukesha/2022/10/25/takeaways-on-day-17-of-darrell-brooks-waukesha-christmas-parade-trial/69588410007/

https://www.newsweek.com/can-reddit-post-impact-darrell-brooks-case-1755265

https://mashable.com/article/darrell-brooks-trial-reddit-fake-juror-post

https://dailycaller.com/2022/10/26/waukesha-trial-reddit-juror/

https://www.fox6now.com/news/darrell-brooks-trial-jury-instructions-closing-arguments-10252022

https://www.gmtoday.com/the_freeman/news/brooks-asks-for-mistrial-over-justice4darrell-subreddit-post/article_e7156614-553a-11ed-b90f-7ba9e281941d.html

https://abc7chicago.com/waukesha-parade-attack-darrell-brooks-jury-verdict-trial/12379820/

https://heavy.com/news/darrell-brooks-juror-reddit-jury/

https://www.insider.com/reddit-post-almost-derailed-darrell-brooks-trial-2022-10

https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7bxdz/darrell-brooks-kicked-out-of-trial - brief mention here

rDrama threads

https://rdrama.net/h/museumofrdrama/post/116675/recap-of-how-the-marseycapychad2-made - recap

https://rdrama.net/post/116585/clip-justice4darrell-mention-in-the-court

https://rdrama.net/post/116587/600-comments-and-counting-on-the

https://rdrama.net/post/116672/marseypeace-me-yeah-i-am-gonna

https://rdrama.net/post/116683/rjustice4darell-banned-reclassified

https://rdrama.net/post/116641/siren-marseyobjection-marseyitsover-siren-bait-sub

https://rdrama.net/post/116648/official-law-and-crime-youtube-video

https://rdrama.net/post/116685/heymoonster-is-currently-microwaving-his-harddrives

https://rdrama.net/post/116643/rsubredditdrama-is-behind-the-justice4darrell-subreddit

https://rdrama.net/post/116687/-

https://rdrama.net/post/116625/the-juror-guy-pussied-out-lmao

https://rdrama.net/post/116585/clip-justice4darrell-mention-in-the-court

https://rdrama.net/post/116525/rekieta-law-talked-about-the-rjustice4darrell [in 10/25 stream it's around the 2:05 mark iirc]

https://rdrama.net/post/116659/a-bluecheck-journo-calls-out-rdrama

https://rdrama.net/post/116711/what-pol-thinks-of-us

https://rdrama.net/post/116745/someone-please-help-me-i-think

https://rdrama.net/post/116833/seriously-frick-you-all-if-a

https://rdrama.net/post/117251/the-waukesha-incident-brooksannoyed-the-story/ - @HeyMoon's perspective

Chronological Updates

2022-10-25 7:21 PM CT: 35,000 users on the subreddit now

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7:45 CT: the pinned post now links to http://rdrama.org

Edit 8:17 PM: https://old.reddit.com/r/Justice4Darrell/

The subreddit has now been banned for violating the mod code of conduct

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Edit 8:45 PM:

Producer from Law & Crime Network shouts out

https://twitter.com/cathyrusson/status/1585071740769955840

Edit 8:59 PM: /r/SubredditDrama post: https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/ydk0on/op_outs_himself_as_a_juror_in_the_current_darrell/?sort=controversial

Edit 9:11 PM:

Video from Law & Crime Network

Edit 9:58

holy shit there are so many notifications

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Edit 10:03 PM: a /pol/ thread https://archived.moe/pol/thread/401526530 (archive: https://archived.moe/pol/thread/401526530)

Edit 10:37 PM: OutOfTheLoop post: https://old.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/ydn6n8/whats_up_with_rjusticefordarrell_and/?sort=controversial

Edit 10:43 PM: LegalAdviceOffTopic post: https://old.reddit.com/r/legaladviceofftopic/comments/ydl028/what_legal_consequences_could_the_author_of_the/?sort=controversial

Edit 11:09 PM: http://patriots.win post: https://patriots.win/p/15K6guJTho/rjustice4darrell-the-pro-darrell/c/

Edit 2022-10-26 12:30 AM: /h/museumofrdrama post from @SlackerNews: https://rdrama.net/h/museumofrdrama/post/116675/recap-of-how-the-marseycapychad2-made

Edit 12:49 AM: reformatting to clean up

Edit 2:14 AM: WebSleuths forum post: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/wi-darrell-brooks-rams-car-into-holiday-parade-crowd-6-dead-61-injured-waukesha-4.641370/page-14#post-17847459 (and add Fox and Daily Caller article)

Edit 9:03 AM: Darrell Brooks asks for mistrial because of reddit post, is denied

Edit 9:52 AM: Following this event, user @weev has verifiably joined the site https://rdrama.net/post/116580/justice4darrell-subreddit-mentioned-in-darrell-brooks/2964338?context=8#context

Edit 10:32 AM: added a link

Edit 11:50 AM: added a couple more links to news articles

Edit 10/27 2:29 PM: added Insider article

Edit 2:53 PM: added Vice article

Edit 6:19 PM: added post talking from @HeyMoon's perspective

Edit 6:21 PM: formatting adjustments, move rdrama threads to own section, etc

Edit 6:30 PM: add newsweek and mashable articles

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EFFORTPOST UPDATE #8: I am tired and going to bed Janniecord is taking the janniecide well

Right on schedule after the long weekend in which the jannies worked and Reddit employees had barbecues like normal people we are back! If you're just tuning in, you're a few dozen leak threads late. But the latest development was this:

https://rdrama.net/post/180607/at-last-jannycide-is-upon-us

which isn't leaky, but was the public announcement of this reckoning. And now without further ado, today's leaks:


https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687306644798558.webp

:#marseydemopped::#marseyspez:

Will update with meltdowns as they accumulate. Just wanted to get this thread up so they know I’m still watching, I’ve just been busy :star:

:#marseybongojanny:



20:19 EST Gigajannies acknowledge the janniecide:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873068909735963.webp



20:26 EST: jannies are taking to the white supremacist platform Twitter to sneed now

..and they’re crying about getting the rDrama treatment :marseycarptrollg#un:

https://twitter.com/jackdaniel8008/status/1671297523108007941?s=46

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873073428213387.webp



21:11 The #resignations channel is born

I lost another jannie groomercord account due to suspicious activity and I am now down to three. The walls are closing in.

:marseycarpd#evil:

But anyway they've created a #resignations channel and the infighting is starting back up

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873100781036127.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687310020435923.webp

lol they're talking about me even though the word rdrama gets autodeleted :marseycarpshy#:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687310595125777.webp



21:27 Intermission

While we wait for more shareworthy tantrums, @ForcedRegistrycel has collated some fun stuff about a dethroned /r/celebrities jannie, one @Vaprz, who is in ruins after losing 14 years of his life to moderating /r/celebrities only to be fired from a volunteer position. I would strongly recommend visiting his thread!

https://rdrama.net/post/180641/janicide-horror-stories-removed-as-moderator



21:57 Emotions run high

Tensions continue to mount in the newly-christened #resignations and /u/HKayn is repeatedly begging people not to make any rash, life-altering decisions like resigning from a moderator position or deleting one's Reddit account.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873126351970282.webp

The users in the powerjannie Groomercord briefly consider whether turning Reddit over to other powermods is the best course of action.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873126352992647.webp

AND THEY HAVE A NEW PLAN - DELETE FRICKING EVERYTHING! YEAH! BURN REDDIT TO THE GROUND!

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873126355708241.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687312635714409.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873126359529443.webp

They go on to rule this out. Not because Reddit would obviously just roll their deletions back, but because they (again) don't want to lose their positions or accounts :marseyxd#::

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873126362235308.webp

/u/Meepster23, who our own @Julian_H_Cope calls "one of the few respectable mods", pulls the trigger and deletes his Reddit account!

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873126362698114.webp

...just kidding lol he lied.

While I have you here, give this a listen!

:#marseyjamming:



21:59 RAPIDFIRE UPDATES - SADMINS FUCKED AROUND AND FOUND OUT :#marseyjannymin!i:

Is the janniecide over? Six million mops in four hours always did seem suspicious. The numbers just don't add up. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but just like, think about it bro.

https://twitter.com/JackDaniel8008/status/1671332720729903104

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873129318135414.webp

I can't believe the jannie counteroffensive is winning lmao. Kill me.

:marseycarpsalute#: the fallen chadmins



23:29 BLIND KINKSTERS

I have no idea what this means but something about accessibility on p*rn subs for blind pornsick addicts??

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873178115949023.webp

They can’t name rDrama (literally! they made a bot to autodelete any messages containing “rDrama”!) but they’re talking about us. And chtorrr. And Marty the Hate Cat.

:#marseychtorrr2::#marseyhomohitler:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687317991735635.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873179918796833.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873181500819385.webp

A hyperautistic lunatic has noticed the reddit content policy is no longer available in English :marseythonk:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873181499907358.webp

https://redditinc.com/policies/content-policy



23:50 Bedtime

Ok I am very bored and getting off now. What do you think will happen with the content policy?

One final leak: they think random users who just add subs to their feed to scroll their FYP while they shit are going to rally to their heroic jannies’ defense :marseykneel:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873198221219192.webp

Goodnight dramautists, pray that we all wake to a world free of jannies :#marseycarpsleeping:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873196800132532.webp

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EFFORTPOST Fallout TV show season 1 has dropped, it sucks. Unmarked spoilers inside.

So the show has released, and as expected by anyone with a brain, it sucks. However it seems to have sucked more than anyone could have predicted. This might legitimately darn Bethesda lmao.

First, here is a comment from this thread explaining how they absolutely butchered world building (this show is canon btw):

:marseyannoyed: So, in summary, if I understand correctly, these are the major changes:

- Shady Sands got cratered in 2277

- NCR vertibird downed on the strip

- The Strip barricades are gone

- Vault Tec seemed to have caused the Great War

- The Boneyard is no longer a thing

- Shady Sands is in place of the Boneyard

- NCR Rangers are gone

- Aradesh is no longer the founder of Shady Sands (more speculatory)

- Somehow the Brotherhood seemed to have overran the NCR in 2277

What I can't believe is that they actually retconned the original two Fallout games and that nobody won New Vegas. Even more egregious is the lore change with the BoS-NCR war, which retcons THE ENTIRETY OF F:NV. This has to be a new timeline at this point.

TL:DR is they literally retconned the 3 games they didn't make, and then replaced the factions from those games with very special factions they made from the 2 games they developed themselves. This is like a bad fanfiction lol.

People predicably, are mad. Some seethe:

:marseydeadinside: Jesus. I genuinely can't believe I was actually letting myself be excited for the future of this franchise before this release. Completely retconning the original games is genuinely fricking so sad man.

:marseyconfused: When is it said aradesh is no longer the founder of shady sands?

Also when do we see the ncr vertibird crashed on the strip?

:marseyannoyed: It's never said by Moldaver, but it seems to be implied that she founded Shady Sands in addition to being the remaining NCR leader. This is speculation, and it probably shouldn't be listed as an actual change.

Vertibird: https://i.imgur.com/a/5ygLxmK

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1712816266134328.webp


:marseyconfused: So even though it's been established that Shady Sands is in an entirely different state of the new california Republic from the boneyard, they just slapped it right into los angeles, and then they nuked it, why???

:marseysmug2: What even is a Shady Sands? Has anyone else wondered why they named the first game Fallout 3 by the way? Wacky Bethesda xD

:marseysad2: That's not a nuke crater, that's a "Borg scooped up the settlement" crater. This is dumb.


:purerage: I knee it.

I just knew it.

I prayed it wasnt the case but at any opportunity they had, Bethesda tried to retcon New Vegas and now their efforts... went nuclear.

Hate it. HATE IT. HATE IT.

New Vegas is the Canon version of events. Not some Amazon show.

:angry: I fricking knew Todd would frick it over to create their version of Fallout artificially. I fricking hate it. I was fine with a scenario where the NCR loses in Vegas, but to just extensively rewrite the lore of Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas to jerk off the BoS even more? Fricking dead to me.

:marseyseethe: Says you, but Bethesda owns the franchise and this is the direction they took. They entirely retconned the fallout games they did not make, and they've succeeded. Next season they'll go and show New Vegas as a dead husk bereft of anything that made it special. Enjoy!

Also, they do not care anymore. They are owned by Microsoft now and exist to make xbox and live games.

:purerage: Look, I am very good at that. My Canon Star Wars are the old Comic books with sea dragons and Jaxxon the green rabbit. I literally ignored anything that came after that.

So I will need to ignore Bethesda to keep the correct Canon? Boo f#₪#^ hoo. They didnt get even a passable game out in the last 12 years!

I walked the Divide for the NCR, I can ignore Bethesda for them as well.


:!marseysad: Haven't watched the show yet as I sail the high seas but this ending sounds very, very annoying. Seems like the show starts off well though but if what I'm seeing here is the case I'll be pretty fricking ticked that they essentially made the West the same as the East in terms of development and that they made NV mean nothing.

:marseyseethe: NV was entirely retconned. The casinos are literally husks and the city is dead. NCR died when Shady Sands (located in the wrong place) was blown up by one guy.

:!marseysad: Christ alive 🤦🏿‍♂️. They should've atleast had some obsidian writers and lorekeepers there to keep things consistent. This is just laziness. I'm not one of those people who thinks Bethesda despises obsidian but like cmon.

:marseyitsover: It's not laziness. It was a deliberate choice.

:marseysad2: Resetting to a status quo of “muh wasteland” absolutely is laziness

:marseygigaretard: Its funny because there is a meme that Bethesda is spite driven because obsidian made a better fallout game than bethesda and the metacritic score 83, 85 thing FNV being retconned is funny knowing the meme


:marseyseethe: I hate it all.

The NCR was written out as a society entirely. The writers I guess just learned about shady sands and went 'oh its the capital so if we blow it up then the NCR will collapse.'

The NCR was such a good faction, it was the only one that actually grew, that had a familiar functioning postwar society. And what did they do? They nuked them out of existence to show off the brotherhood and a dead, empty New Vegas.

Why, why would they do this.. they could have made it right after the nuking not decades after. They pissed all over the legacy of my favourite game.

:marseysmugretard: I blame Lonesome Road and Chris Avellone.

:marseysad2: I can't hold him responsible for this, he had enough sense to know how big the NCR was and how the game world worked. That's why Ulysses wanted to destroy the Long 15 and block them from reaching the Mojave.

:marseydepressed: To me, Fallout stood apart for being a post-post-apocalyptic story. Just nuking the NCR not only strips away one of the most interesting aspects of the setting but does it, to my eyes, entirely unnecessarily. If you wanted to tell a wasteland story, you could have:

  • Set it between Fallout 1 and 2, or even before Fallout 1
  • Set it in one of the vast regions of America that are untouched by the games thus far

But no. Fricking why?

:marseysmug2: I knew this would happen the moment I've heard the name Todd Howard.

:marseyseethe: It really feels like they asked BETHESDA for the lore, and they said 'oh well you got the Brotherhood of Steel who have this big airship and vertibirds and huge machine guns that can only be wielded in power armor.'

then went 'oh there's this group called the NCR, I think they're from shady sands or something, you can blow them up for shock value it'll be fine. There's also this big place called New Vegas you can turn into a dump too who cares lmao.'

:marseydevil: "heh heh heh that'll teach 'em to like obsidian's game more than ours*

:marseysad2: Honestly I am becoming one of those people more and more by the minute, especially if their plans for New Vegas next season are what they seem to be.

:marseypalpatine: somehow palpatine returned


:marseynerd2: So what did house predict then if it was vault tec who dropped the bombs. So Mr house knew the nukes where coming and still couldn't shoot them down or get the plat chip

:marseynerd2: Also it says shady shands fell in 2277 but new vegas is set in 2281 ?

:marseyseethe: I guess NV is just entirely retconned in the show? NV is dead, empty. The only places that exist are a half dozen towns outside of the city itself. The casinos are gutted entirely aside from the Lucky 38 which I guess House lives in still? He would be waking up just as the NCR was probing into NV, Caesar's Legion would be on it's way as well. Big MT is still abducting people.. The Brotherhod wouldn't have lost at Helios One but also now have infinite energy so why would they even care?

The entirity of FNV was fought over a dam, water and power.. Now the BOS has infinite clean and renewable fusion.. the NCR doesn't exist either.

So they're using the facade of 1, 2 and NV as a backdrop for more BoS shenanigans from Bethesda's mainline games.

:marseyrain: Maaaaan

This is what I was afraid of. A good show based in world building that I think is fundamentally uninteresting.

I'm probably just gonna separate it out as its own thing in my head, no matter how canon Todd says it is.

:marseybigbrain: This is what everyone paying attention was afraid of, but they got shot down as alarmist for daring to suggest the brilliant creative minds behind Starfield might provide a shite backdrop for worldbuilding.

:marseyseethe: He was in a meeting to know exactly when it would happen and was wrong.. somehow.

Did he not read the memo?

:marseynerd2: Fallout new vegas mr house :marseygigachad:: I was able to almost accurately predict a nuclear war and I have set the pieces for my rise to power after I come back online

Tv show Mr House :yakub:: Shieeeeeeeet I ain't reading all that I'm just gonna pretend I read this


:marseycope: To everyone saying the NCR is totally collapsed.

I highly doubt it. It seems after Shady Sands was nuked the NCR was a bit scrappy but pulling itself together to keep everything afloat, with the BOS destroying the HQ and the view of the NCR leader using the Cold Fusion to power the entire city at once, it shows the civilians of the NCR are still existing at least throughout the entire ruins in some way.

I imagine next season, we're gonna see the BoS biting way more than it can Chew, and something with New Vegas as well, and with the father constantly mentioning something about "Meeting your Creators." How much you wanna bet Mr House is technically still alive? Just New Vegas went into dormancy??

Im excited to see potentially the NCR Regrouping or like Scrappy NCR rebels, and Desert Rangers in the Mojave. I highly doubt the NCR is done and over with from what we saw.

:marseytears: Whatever your opinions on it, retconning NV out of the timeline (which is exactly what they've done) frickin sucks.

:marseycope: Yeah.. But at least it isn't like a straight full on they don't even exist kind of retcon. Seems more like a soft reboot


:marseywave2: Hello fellow spoiler fiends who went straight to the end and saw the New Vegas tease. Also, from what I gathered skipping around, the MC's father was a Vault Tec guy who nuked Shady Sands because her mother went there and was having a great time (missed a bunch of dialogue skipping through so that might not be right). The Brotherhood has cold fusion now and the guy in charge seems like a peepee so presumably they will butt up against whoever is now in charge of House's technology.


:marseyconfused2: Dude wtf happened to the NCR? Didn't they say they had most of California pretty much colonized? I'm only on episode 4 but complete radio silence while it takes place near the boneyard and dayglow??

:marseydeadinside2: Episode 8 covers it.

It's not pretty.

About 5 years after New Vegas, Lucy's Mom left vault 33 to see if life was back on the surface, taking Lucy and her brother with her, and made her way to Shady Sands, which teleported to LA at some point. Her dad, who was a Vault-Tec executive came after them, stole the kids back, and use Vault-Tec's secret supply of nuclear weapons (The ones they launched to start the great war) to destroy the NCR, as they were a competitor to Vault-Tec.

Also, the ending credits show a destroyed New Vegas, with empty streets full of shattered Secuiritrons and a destroyed NCR Vertibird.


I also wanted to mention this specific comment, because I found it funny:

:hmm: They also technically retconned FO4 since Kellogg mentions the NCR election.


Note that I'm not cherry picking comments here, basically everyone hates this garbage. Of course the critics love it, but the actual Fallout fans think it's terrible.

As one of the comments already mentioned, they really shouldn't have set this in the West Coast. They should have set it somewhere new for numerous reasons:

  • New factions and threats to add a sense of tension and mystery as the viewer wouldn't know anything more than the main character

  • Avoid having to retcon or step on the toes of the games

  • Keep it in a region that is less advanced so you can have your apocalypse fantasy

  • Set the show up as a prequel for Fallout 5, building hype for it even if it's years away.


Expect this thread to be updated as more seethe is posted, this is developing drama. In a few hours we will probably see the hitpieces from journ*lists calling the haters bigots, so keep an eye out for that.

Edit: here are more threads with tons of seethe in them:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Fotv/comments/1bt7fzx/fallout_spoiler_master_thread/?sort=controversial

https://old.reddit.com/r/Fotv/comments/1bt7fzx/fallout_spoiler_master_thread/?sort=controversial

https://old.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1c17tyn/spoilers_about_the_ncr/?sort=controversial

https://old.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1c17mrr/discussion_about_the_ncr_in_the_tv_show/?sort=controversial

:marseycope: dear god this one is maximum cope: https://old.reddit.com/r/Fotv/comments/1c185mn/my_theories_for_season_2_and_possible/?sort=controversial

https://old.reddit.com/r/Fotv/comments/1c15tey/so_does_the_show_take_place_in_an_alternate/?sort=controversial

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EFFORTPOST Riot has officialy put League in maintenance mode and g*mers are not happy

Background

With the start of the upcoming thirteenth season of Riot's classic MOBA game League of Legends tomorrow the community is split upon the argument if Riot is even actively developing new content for the game or rather dragging the game over the line relying on the success of their other popular games namely Valorant and Wild Rift or on the fantastic animated series Arcane. As recent developments in League's history featured a trite pre-season, a new provider for the very important SEA region and the departure of a beloved host (not sjokz so doesn't matter) of the LCS coupled with switching the schedule of the aforementioned professional league to a completely inaccessible time slot in the afternoon, people are concerned about the future of the game in the west. It's hard to gauge actual facts as Riot doesn't release their numbers but from the eye test alone you'd immediately come to the conclusion that League of Legends is heading south. While many people (casual and professional g*mers) have said this for a long time now, the recent developments have made things much worse and I'll tell you why:


Not officially announcing the start of the season until a couple days prior

While this tweet offers a timetable of the season start for each major and minor region you'd think it's kinda weird for a game of this size to not have a concise and clear answer until 2 days before the season start. Players had to figure out the exact date for the start of the season for weeks prior relying on vague he-said-she-said information on twitter or other inherently unreliable sources.

https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/107m6ej/official_ranked_start_times_all_regions_by/j3nqayd/?sort=controversial

The fact that we have to find out like this after deducing the fricking SEASON START like Hercule fricking Poirot is utterly ridiculous

https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/107m6ej/official_ranked_start_times_all_regions_by/j3n51w2/?sort=controversial

again we have to look for it on twitter, nothing in the client etc. its so fking disgusting

Is the new events tab we got for no reason (that is entirely more clunky than the event rewards page being in your rewards tab) not enough for you? You think they could somehow manage fixing the client and adding useless shit no one asked for at the same time lol? Nah, they only had the manpower to shift the events page to its own clunky tab that you can barely see more than 2 rows worth of cosmetics in.

Just be thankful that useless new events page didn’t end up breaking the client further, we could have lost the entire runes page as a result of adding that new tab.

https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/107m6ej/official_ranked_start_times_all_regions_by/j3n64id/?sort=controversial

And the official insta has a countdown with 12h in their story, some say the new ranked season already started in Korea. I just don't know anymore...

For some reason Riot already started the season and Korea and had to reset all already played games (see here for example).


Not following up on their promises

This headline is intentionally chosen to be opaque mainly due to the fact that I am incapable of finding all broken promises but here are some prime examples of Riot failing to deliver:

  • Removing Smurf Queue: SmurfQ was a method Riot used in the previous season to combat the menace of smurfs (stronger players playing on new/stolen/friends' accounts against weaker players) in ranked games although they failed to figure out how to remove previously inactive account from this queue meaning if you were a returning player (or any other player with a high discrepancy between your MMR and your rank) you'd end up in full smurf lobbies which was an absolutely miserable experience over and over again. Some people claim it took them tens if not hundreds of games to finally be out of smurf queue and play against people on their skill level. As this was obviously not fun for either the returning players or the plethora of next Fakers in smurf queue Riot decided to just remove the system making smurfs appear in regular ranked matches again. See here or here for further discussion.

  • Failing to release the new VGU: As League of Legends is quite old now a lot of the older heroes are not capable of keeping up with the power creep of the latest releases making them obsolete and quite frankly incredibly unfun. Riot combats this by updating older heroes to new standards either via a visual or a gameplay update; sometimes even combining both of them for a visual and gameplay update. As a token of goodwill Riot offered players the choice of which hero gets this desired upgrade and the community voted for Skarner who is as one-dimensional as Salvador sperging out about the Ukranian-Russia war. I think he won the poll about a year ago but nothing has been done and the community is quite sceptical about Riot failing to deliver yet again here

https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/107jo6b/so_has_any_work_for_the_skarner_vgu_been_done/j3mpw1t/?sort=controversial

From the sound of it they still haven't decided what visual design road to take him in, which sounds really odd at this point.

But we don't know when this was recorded so maybe something changed since then?

https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/107jo6b/so_has_any_work_for_the_skarner_vgu_been_done/j3n02wb/?sort=controversial

I legit think they didn't expect him to win so they didn't even have any plans made.

https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/107jo6b/so_has_any_work_for_the_skarner_vgu_been_done/j3mtj6d/?sort=controversial

Honestly I feel like they have no idea how to tackle him which iirc that’s why they didn’t rework him before either

This article talks about an update for this long-awaited VGU that's planned for Skarner but it's still mind-boggling how Riot is simply incapable of doing this in an acceptable time frame.

The update didn’t ruin ARAMS, you just forgot what the gamemode is all about. [600 comments]

The current state of ARAM balance is an absolute mess. [680 comments]

ARAM Champion specific buffs are borderline insane [600 comments]

ARAM is dead to me [1500 comments]

The game most just feels so awful now. The aram balance adjustments feel awful and the new tower falling/death times feel terrible as well. One of my favorite champions, ashe, is forced to not go adc, while Leblanc gets broken modifiers because iron players suck at her. No aram adjustment should go past 5% in my opinion. Yes some champs will be better than others but at least I don't have to scroll down a list every pre game to see what champs are currently neutered. I can't believe we didn't get nexus blitz so they could further ruin this abomination of a game mode. Goodbye aram I'd rather play weakside top lane then waste another minute wallowing in the filth that is ARAM.

ARAM seems less "for fun" with the recent changes [800 comments]


The failure of the 2023 cinematic

The absolute bomb Riot dropped was the travesty of the newly released cinematic. Despite releasing a couple of hours prior to this post it has already gathered more dislikes and negative comments than all other cinematics combined:

On Youtube:

  • Alexcx: the cinematic perfectly depicts the state of game: uneventful and below expectations [+15100]

  • Maple: I can't help but to feel sad about this, honestly. Cinematics were the only thing that NEVER disappointed from riot, yet here we are... [+2000]

  • Tren Status: After the 2022 cinematic, I can't even begin to explain how DISAPPOINTING this year's is [+6500]

On Twitter: (a lot of people working in the league bubble are disappointed)

https://twitter.com/LeagueOfLegends/status/1612736707220369408

On Reddit:

https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10857ge/the_brink_of_infinity_season_2023_cinematic/?sort=controversial

https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10857ge/the_brink_of_infinity_season_2023_cinematic/j3q8kmp/?sort=controversial

Is that it?

1 year for the intern to drop their realistic render of the rift and voice a few lines

https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1086230/brink_of_infinity_has_52k_dislikes_at_52_mins/?sort=controversial

Fantasticaly underwhelming. I hope this is the biggest dissapointment I'm gona suffer this year.

I admit, after last year "The Call" my expectations were high as heck but witnessing this shit that was goo in 2012 at best probably summs up the issues the game faces and probably make community realises why the voices calling the game "maintenance mode" are louder than ever.

Pre season was already dissapointing enough with core gameplay issues around itemisation is still unfixed ever since new system from S11.

Feels like everything I/WE loved about this game slowly getting tossed aside by every year. :(

https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1086230/brink_of_infinity_has_52k_dislikes_at_52_mins/j3qctb7/?sort=controversial

It has 8.1k dislikes and 2022 cinematic with 143 million views has 8.3k lmao. Took 1 hour to get the same amount of dislikes.

https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1086230/brink_of_infinity_has_52k_dislikes_at_52_mins/j3qexi1/?sort=controversial

If this is the future of cinematics for league, I just hope they stop doing them at all. This was so cheap and disappointing wtf. Dislikes are deserved imo.

It's so bad I'm confused - it quite literally looks like a Riot cinematic from 10 years ago, complete with the odd plasticky graphics, and focus on the Summoners/Summoner's Rift instead of the actual world of Runeterra

https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10866a8/lets_discuss_the_cinematic/?sort=controversial

My personal opinion? Worst cinematic ever. 0 Lore progression, 0 Hype. I don’t know what they thought creating this. After the call, this is probably the painful awakening. It feels like Platin Peter‘s motivational speech to his duo mate, that they will win dia promos this time.

https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10866a8/lets_discuss_the_cinematic/j3qh2g1/?sort=controversial

Dash got sacked to make more budget for THIS???

Lil Nas X catching some strays:

https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10866a8/lets_discuss_the_cinematic/j3qfwxd/?sort=controversial

The shit that happens when you blow your entire budget on lil nas x

Except the 2023 budget is supposedly the biggest yet so there’s no excuse

his music isn't even mid

why did they even pick him?

the worlds song sucked so fking hard and now this?

Why did they pick a gay black singer to design a skin for a gay black character in a season in which they're trying to promote inclusion?


Summary and further discussion

Go to the League subreddit and I bet you that at least 75% of all posts are complaining about something. It's also honestly fascinating how some posts on this subreddit with millions of subscribers are on the frontpage with less than 100 upmarseys. Some further threads that complain about the state of the game:

Where has Riot's passion for League gone?

'Events' nowadays are just an excuse to get players to buy an event pass. We're lucky if we get a visual novel with it.

Riot's skin philosophy seems to have shifted to "quantity over quality". This is apparent when looking at the Zenith Games skins, Battle Boss Bel'Veth, and skin lines that champions have been forced into like SG and SB.

Champion teasers are something we have to ask for nowadays. I guess Riot doesn't really care about hyping up players for champion releases anymore. But why would they if everything gets leaked anyway nowadays, right?

This year's season start cinematic was terrible. No champions, no nothing, just a render of Summoner's Rift.

Is this the same company that released K/DA, the Annie: Origins cinematic and TFT as passion projects? The same company that made event gamemodes like Odyssey: Extraction and PROJECT: Hunters?

The same company that decided to focus on champion reworks for like a year because they realized that a lot of champions are outdated? Now 'midscope updates' are the new hot thing.

https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1086hu0/where_has_riots_passion_for_league_gone/j3qewrl/?sort=controversial

Valo, MMO , project L.. Riot has new favourite child/children.

https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1086hu0/where_has_riots_passion_for_league_gone/j3qfdme/?sort=controversial

This is called corporate complacency and is a well known cycle in every industry. It's an issue fundamentally of profit-focused business management culture prioritizing revenue milking over the fundamentals of their original success and consumer unwillingness to punish this behavior.

I nominate the Pokemon company and game freak if you want to see the worst example. 100 man team for game dev reusing assets and can't make a triple a game on a modern console, massive profits. By comparison a game like Warframe has 500 employees.

Do we have to be scared? Are they reducing the budget of League so much?

Ahri took 300 years and she looks identical

Skarner is still in the early CONCEPT stage

Champions are getting post-poned left and right

No new events announced for 2023

Valorant getting better cinematics for a SKIN BUNDLE

Wild Rift getting so many exclusive (and high quality) skins

THAT SORRY EXCUSE FOR A "CINEMATIC" FOR SEASON 2023

What is happening to League? Are they reducing the budget of the game so much? Are we going towards some kind of maintenance mode or something?

I know it seems soon to cry wolf, but all these things together made me really worried for the future of League.

https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1086en6/do_we_have_to_be_scared_are_they_reducing_the/j3qhjj3/?sort=controversial

As a former Heroes of the Storm player, I must say that this feels very familiar.

https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1086en6/do_we_have_to_be_scared_are_they_reducing_the/j3qg53i/?sort=controversial

League is the older sibling and the parents dont care about them anymore. All the younger children is getting the attention now.

That's how life often works. Times change.

https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1086en6/do_we_have_to_be_scared_are_they_reducing_the/j3qkkn3/?sort=controversial

League is basically running in a skeleton crew compared to 2015-2017.

I mean I remember the gangplank event. the OG Oddysey event and a bunch of stuff like that. the mass reworks that even if annoying af made the game fresh.

anyone who says otherwise its just willfully ignoring facts.

we have gotten the same content the last 2-3 years that we woulve previously gotten in 1 season.

Idk how most ppl don't realize this. We been running on fumes for a while now. I feel like anybody with a shread of wanting to do something diffrent went to TFT.

[..]

All of their best people are on other games. Valorant, TFT, and Runeterra are all fantastic. I'm sure they've got all of their resources pointed at the MMO, too. I guess they figure that League can take care of itself while they flesh out their portfolio.

https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1086en6/do_we_have_to_be_scared_are_they_reducing_the/j3qe1ii/?sort=controversial

My guess: Most of LoL Devs moved to the MMO. LoL now only exists to fund the MMO so there will be huge budget cuts while trying to make as much money as possible (thats why there are 2 season resets now, they want us to play nothing but LoL and buy lots of skins).


Personal opinion

'No king rules forever and the times they are a-changin' said the preacher. It's all vanity in the end, isn't that right?

Also please try to NOT make fun of me for writing all of this I'm sensible o-okay :soycry:

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EFFORTPOST :marseysailor: Das Tuub | Titanic R-sluration

I just found out about this submarine like an hour ago. I feel really bad for the people trapped inside, especially the kid, but they kinda deserve it for even getting on this thing. Everyone's laughing at the CEO for his dumbass DEI policies, but this is just surface level stuff (lol). No one's actually explained the depths of how r-slurred this guy and his company are, so I thought I'd take some time out of my actual engineering job while I'm sitting in a boring butt zoom meeting to properly call this guy a fricking r-slur, so you can all find this just as funny as I do. I thought you all might appreciate it a little more than just some sporadic tweets about the DEI shit he did. This is going to be like a Challenger-style breakdown and what exactly went wrong so you can appreciate this frick-up.

There's gonna be a lot of naval puns in this so bear with me here. A lot of this is coming from my friend, also an engineer, who's done more research into this than I have.


In the Boatginning

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873693238826516.webp

Dramatards, I'd like to introduce you to Stockton Rush. Owner of the the most startup founder-ish name in history, this guy has been making janky submarines his entire life. He got his start in the aerospace industry, as a test engineer on the F-15 with McDonnell-Douglass. Anyone familiar with the industry will note that experience with McDonnell-Douglass is not necessarily a good thing on your resume.

https://www.businessinsider.in/international/news/maker-of-the-lost-titanic-sub-once-told-a-reporter-that-at-some-point-safety-is-just-pure-waste/amp_articleshow/101143398.cms

He's made a career out of building submarines that are cheaper and more accessible to the general population, and his company, OceanGate, has had a few successful designs. What's notable about his history, however, is that he's made them cheaper largely by bypassing safety standards. His first submarine that they operated was called Antipodes, was a refit sub built by a different company. Originally intended for research purposes, they used it instead for tourist dives.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Cyclops_1_Submersible.jpg/330px-Cyclops_1_Submersible.jpg

The first actual submarine they built was the Cyclops 1, a carbon-fiber (we'll come back to this part) submarine controlled using a PlayStation controller, with an operational depth of 500m. The submarine is deployed/recovered from some weird floating drydock concept, which crucially allows them to not use human rated cranes to recover the submarine.

After seeing some moderate success, he's gone and built the submarine in question, the Titan, which is built from a composite carbon-fiber and titanium. They bought the hull from a company called Spencer Composites, who intended it to be SINGLE USE. The submarine was built to a factor-of-safety (multiple of how much of the expected load you can withstand before it breaks) of 2.25 (which is frick-all, especially for a submarine - should be at least 6, probably more like 10). . A lot of journ*lists who went on board the thing noted that most of the parts on the interior were sourced from local hardware stores, as were the ballast tanks. They were not, as you could imagine, comfortable about being on board once they realized this.


DEI-ing At Sea

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This guy's team is a bunch of young, impressionable diversity hires. He's explicitly avoided anyone with experience because they are old and white and men. They're not very inspirational, and so they don't have a place on Rush's team.

Anyone who has worked on an engineering project before knows that any engineer with less than 2 years of practical experience is a massive drain on the project and need to be babysat constantly, ESPECIALLY if they might kill someone. They're usually worth investing in because they'll give you a great return in the long run, but boy are those first couple of years hard.

I didn’t hire experienced people because I’m a racist

oh no my boat sank, how could this have possibly happened

:#marseypikachu2:

This is going to go a long way to explain why what happened did happen, so buckle up.


Frick-up #1: Carboat-Fiber

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Let's talk materials for a second. Carbon-fiber is what's called a composite material, because it's made from a couple of different types of material. You have the carbon fibers themselves, which are really resistant to being stretched in-plane (like pulling apart a sheet of paper), but have very little strength out of plane (like poking a hole in paper) or off-axis (they're woven into almost a cloth, if you pull at a 60 degree angle to that weave, they lose 80% of their strength).

Carbon fibers are usually set in place with solidified plastics, like epoxy. It solves a lot of problems as far as directional strength goes, but you still need to be careful with it. In a specific configuration, it has similar material properties to a common aerospace aluminium alloy (T-6061), while being a fraction of the weight. Great for airplanes and race cars, where mass is a factor.

Steel is the best material, and the only reason you use anything else is either because you don't want it to rust, or because you can't use steel. It's cheap, strong, and (crucially) it can be stressed over and over again without building up stress fractures. If you keep it under a certain limit, it will never break. NO OTHER MATERIAL DOES THIS.

This makes ideal for something that you're going to put under pressure, and then remove it from that pressure, over and over and over again, in a scenario where weight isn't a factor. Like, say, a submarine.

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Stockton Rush, however, is way too cool for steel :marseysmug3:. He has instead decided to build his submarine out of the super cool airplane material, without understanding why its there in the first place. Composite materials are generally vulnerable to snapping if they're loaded repeatedly, which is why the company that built this refused to endorse it after finding out it was going to be used like it was.

It's never been used on submarines before, and with really good reason. It's not just not an optimal choice, it's literally the worst one possible. From the Business Insider article:

The Titan sub was never checked to see if it was up to standard because of its "innovation," OceanGate said in 2019. The sub features a carbon fiber hull that had never been used on submersibles before, according to the "Unsung Science" podcast.

:#marseypain:

Rush managed to bypass safety standards yet again by using completely different materials and then claiming that the standards aren't relevant. They make you sign a massive waiver when you sign up. No one has actually checked if this thing is safe. There's no standard it's being held to, there's no regulation, no third-party review. No matter how good you are, you can always frick up. Their cavalier attitude towards safety has now probably killed the CEO and four other people.

From their blog:

Maintaining high-level operational safety requires constant, committed effort and a focused corporate culture – two things that OceanGate takes very seriously and that are not assessed during classification.

But it's ok, because they have a corporate culture of safety.


Frick-up #2: Electronixed

So this is an interesting note that I found is that the submarine has no onboard navigational system,. Yes, you read that correctly. They operate it by having a different ship monitor its position, and then send it text messages telling it where it is.

Journ*list David Pogue, who rode in Titan to view the Titanic in 2022, noted that Titan was not equipped with an emergency locator beacon; during his expedition, the surface support vessel lost track of the Titan "for about five hours, and adding such a beacon was discussed. They could still send short texts to the sub, but did not know where it was. It was quiet and very tense, and they shut off the ship's internet to keep us from tweeting."

:#marseyspit:

These people are all going to die

That's part of the reason they can't find it, is because the submarine doesn't know where it is, and can't tell anyone even if it did. It even failed before, and they still didn't fix it. That's not just stupid, it's criminally negligent.

The controls of this thing consist of a single button, and is piloted by a PlayStation controller. I'll point out that the idea of using a gamepad as a submarine helm control is not necessarily a bad one, and was actually implemented by USN submariners to great success. It's intuitive to zoomer helmsmen, really easy to teach, and was actually a way better control scheme than what they were using before. That being said, USN submarines are extremely well designed, very redundant, and extremely well-built. This stupid thing has none of that.

Because of the lack of navigation and emergency beacon, these people are very likely going to die, and it's going to be very unpleasant. It's really hard to find submarines even when they want to be found, and there's still no means of even rescuing these people even if they're found. They've got anti-submarine-warfare aircraft searching and everything, but still nothing.


Frick-up #3: Oxy-Constants

I can't think of a good pun for this. There's no real good source on this that I've seen because it's kind of an obscure problem, but they also fricked up the gas lines on the ship.

When maintaining an atmosphere for people to breathe, you have to be pretty careful with the gas composition. You need gas cyclers to remove CO2 buildup, and replace it with oxygen. Nitrogen doesn't need to be replaced because it's not consumed. This is standard on airplanes, submarines, spacecraft, anything sealed. Failure to do this was infamously the cause of the Apollo 1 disaster, where a pure, high-pressure oxygen atmosphere caused a dramatic fire when some nylon started to overheat.

Can you guess what OceanGate have done?

:marsey#agree:

That's right, they've been injecting pure oxygen into the cabin, with untested electronics on board.

Jesus Christ, guys. You get so many startup CEOs bitching about safety standards, and every now and then when they push the limits, we all get a very public reminder of why they're there in the first place. And it usually costs the lives of people who were tricked into getting onto that stupid butt vehicle in the first place.

!effortposters

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TL;DR: GROOMERCORDCELS ARE LAME AND GAY AND ALSO CARP IS RIGHT ABOUT JOURNOS

CW: GROOMERCORD DRAMA, META DRAMA, SURPLUS AUTISM

OP image graciously provided by @Gandalf-the-Whey.

This is a followup post to @TracingWoodgrains' story of the events here, except with the juicy leaks included and not just a wall of :marseylongpost: :marseylongpost: :marseylongpost:

Since Trace pretty much detailed the whole thing for me already, I'll mainly be focusing on the behind-the-scenes stuff and the juicy inside leaks that he unfortunately failed to deliver.


THE GHOSTENING

A few days ago I was DM'd a Groomercord server invite from @Jackal AKA @TracingWoodgrains, who supposedly set up a safe space for all the drama-adjacent furry degenerates that currently plague the site. I declined of course, since I'm not a furry and I assumed this was some sort of doxing or grooming attempt by our local journo friend using the CNN playbook. :marseyjourno: :marseyhacker:

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Skipping to yesterday, I had the dastardly plan of ghost awarding Jackal's weekly furry thread in hopes of disrupting the meta furry circlejerking and co-opting of the site. They didn't exactly respond well to this, and responded by bitching to Carp to get ghost awards nerfed and/or removed entirely so they could continue to namestrag and attention-whore while posting their weird fetish porn. Unfortunately Carp being the closet furry he is, kowtowed to the pressure and offered up a sitewide poll to determine the fate of ghost awards. When the voting didn't go his way however, Carp decided to then print off a frickton of ghost awards and plaster the whole site with them in hopes of causing a large annoyance, before opening up a second poll in hopes that his tomfoolery would be able to swing the vote in the furries' favor this time around - which in the end still ended with a plurality of users wanting to leave ghost awards unchanged. I'm sure the majority of you were around to see all this for yourself though. :marseythumbsup:


THE INNER FURCLE

Whilst this big shitshow was going down however, I recalled the Groomercord invite that Jackal had sent me prior and realized they must have been coordinating their plans in there. Out of curiosity, I shot Jackal a reply asking for a new invite since the old one had expired - unsurprisingly, I was told that I was suddenly no longer welcome to see what secrets were waiting within, and he used two rather strange and flimsy excuses to why: one that I'm apparently a dangerous potential dox-sperg now because I happen to have a Kiwifarms account like the majority of dramatards, and two because I had previously banned one of their members from rdrama for a week for posting porn of an "aged up" version of the child-coded furry videogame character Ralsei. :marseyconfused:

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This is the character in question for reference - I've been asked to keep a neutral stance on this topic, so it's up to the denizens of rdrama if you think this act constitutes as libertarianism or not.

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Not to be dissuaded however, I was easily able to bribe one of the more impressionable furtwinks in their ranks to provide me screenshots of the hot gossip going on in their secret grooming circle, with a promise of disgusting erotic furry roleplay in return which was left unfulfilled. :marseysmug3: What I discovered will (not) shock you!


THE LEAKS (AKA THE JUICY BIT)

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So it turns out I truly live rent-free in the minds of every furry dramatard that somehow found their way here. They had been talking about me non-stop for hours and were devising different gay-ops in hopes of getting me demopped/evicted from the site, all because I ghosted awarded their gay little circlejerk thread. Little did they know I tend to have a talent for getting into private groomercord cliques and proceeding to leak all their r-slurred nonsense. :marseyglow:

Note: I've decided to omit a bunch of typical furry coomer garbage, as while it's disgusting, it's the same shit you'll find in any run-of-the-mill gay furry groomercord.


Conspiring about the mass ghosting which occurred yesterday:

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There was also plenty of gossip about yours truly, and their paranoia slowly began to bounce off each other until they started to convince themselves that I'm a deranged serial killing doxer that was ready to swat them all at a moment's notice. Rude!

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Eventually this schizo paranoia culminated in our mildly neurodivergent friend @Suicidal_Tendies attempting to coordinate a gay-op where tried to convince a bunch of furries to paypig, in hopes of then pressuring Carp/Aevann to revoke my mop and get me removed from rdrama. It's a shame this plan fell through, because it would've been funny to let them all hand over their neetbux to the site first before getting told to kick rocks and having all their shit leaked afterward. :marseysmug2:

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THE FALLOUT

After compiling screenshots for a couple of hours, my lurking PoC acquaintance @SneedCityUSA - whom I had been watching this unfold with - decided he wanted in on the action. He used the 67000 dramacoin generously gifted to him through reparations to start grass awarding the main culprits of the furcel conspiracy, including messages about the server's intimate happenings in the process which gave away the game that there was an imposter among them. :marseyimposter: :marseytwerking:

Predictably, the whole server rapidly descended into seething, paranoia and infighting. :marseysmug3:

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Eventually they decided @of_blood_and_salt was the most sussy and kicked him from the server, which unfortunately meant I could no longer collect any more screenshots to show here. :marseycry:

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At this point though I was already getting bored of this pathetic groomercordcel nonsense and just sent the server invite to Carp, where he found out all his furry-friends were shit-talking him behind his back whilst at the same time begging for his help against the ghost awardings. :marseylaugh:

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THE HALL OF SHAME

@Jackal REKT

@TracingWoodgrains DOUBLY REKT

@Soren REKT

@Jaukea REKT

@SparkBrave REKT

@of_blood_and_salt REKT

@Corvus REKT

@AshiahTheEgyptianCat REKT

@Suicidal_Tendies REKT

@Lycanroc REKT

@ThreeLetterAgent REKT

@adiosamigo REKT

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:marseyjam: Thanks for playing! :marseyjam:


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EFFORTPOST Please Don't Study English - How To Completely Ruin Your Life

My name @sneedman, but I have also existed within the dramaverse as @acebarbieboy. I'd like to come clean today, explain how I utterly fricked up my life, and give a cautionary tale to any even vaguely thinking of walking in my footsteps. My life is so destroyed at this point that the only solution is suicide.

:marseyangel:

THE GENESIS OF A DREAMER

As a child, I've always loved literature and reading. It's something that hasn't changed much, and I still voraciously read. When it was time for me to enter university, I did what everyone told me the smart choice was - study computer science. But I was also studying English at the time and I loved it.

I ended up majoring in English and dropping computer science. I didn't know it then, but this was the beginning of the end. I studied with passion, and had my postgraduate studies funded through scholarships. After getting my Masters, I started my PhD.

It was at this point that I paid attention to the fact that I'd need a job afterwards. No problem, I'll just become a lecturer! So the job applications began :)

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MENTAL ILLNESS

I should reveal at this point that I've struggled with anxiety and depression my whole life. I've been on and off antidepressants and I've got fricking degenerate self-harming coping methods. They come and go, and during the worst times, I can get very absurd ideas about life and reality.

Sometime in 2022, I had one of those moments. In response, I cut off all contact with everyone I knew online, moved cities in real life, and resigned myself to a life of complete isolation. I was not done with my Ph.D. yet, but I was in my final year (I thought), and I no longer needed to be at the university in person. I had a job too. It didn't pay much, but it was enough for me to support myself.

The plan? Save up money for about a decade, then retreat to a life of isolation in the woods after establishing a homestead that is fully self-sufficient.

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ASEXUALITY AND INCELDOM

I am very ugly, extremely dark, short (5 foot 2), and socially awkward. During my time studying English, I learned about gender theory, feminism, and queer theory. It was wonderful to learn about asexuality. The label fit me perfectly, and for years I wore it without question.

It was only this year, after some distance from university, that I discovered the bitter truth - I am not asexual. I am a very lonely incel. Unfortunately, there is no escape from inceldom from this position. No woman in the universe wants anything to do with a 5'2 mentally ill poor black man.

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AFTER DISASTER

After my "live in the woods" delusions wore off, I realised I'm looking at a life of the following: no wife, no children, no family, no love, no intimacy. The darn asexuality meme snatched my 20s away from me. I also have no friends and I live in a city where I know nobody. This is what I wanted, right?

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PLEASE DO NOT STUDY ENGLISH

Here's the thing - lecturer jobs don't exist anymore. Less than 10% of PhDs will get academic positions, and the rates of tenureship are even lower. Even if you're a stellar student, the odds of you actually making it into academia are so low, you might as well aspire to be a celebrity. If you have mental illness, are a brainlet, are incapable of networking, then you're REKT.

During my year of insanity, I produced no academic articles. I also fricked off my supervisor and made no contact to build any academic relationships. The result? Countless job applications to academics positions to no avail. To be clear, the jobs themselves do not exist, and when they do exist, I am facing competition as stiff as a boner.

Here's the zinger - my fricking PhD thesis got rejected and now I have to spend an additional year on it. Of course, I have to pay for this additional year because I no longer have funding so now I am paying for a qualification I know will not serve me at all.

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WHAT DO YOU GET IF YOU STUDY ENGLISH

You will not become a lecturer. You will not become a famous writer.

You will be pushed to your limits emotionally to earn a useless qualification. If anything happens to you during your post-graduate year - let's say a family member dies, you fall ill - it's over. You'll fall behind in publications and YOU'LL NEVER CATCH UP.

You will be exposed to ideologies that will turn you into a firehouse of "social justice" and you will alienate people in your life with your self-righteousness. It will warp your self-identity, and you will struggle to develop normal relationships with women. You will be forced to write and say deeply racist things.

You will be poor. You will be depressed. You will regret it severely. Nobody gives a shit about your English PhD. You offer no value to the world.

I fricked up so badly. I was literally studying computer science. Had just one fricking year left. And I decided to switch to English. Now I'm a poor, lonely, shameful incel with no hope in life or reason to live. I'm so ashamed of the squandered opportunities I had, the sacrifices my parents made just for me to become absolutely nothing in this world. I can't show my face and I know what the next step is. I'm afraid of it - nothingness is so horrible - it but I can't bear life any longer either.

It's beyond over. The only choice now is whether to pick the rope or overdosing via trepeline.

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